Dating wheeler and wilson sewing machines
😉 In the UK you can buy 128×1 needles for example from uk.Note that DBx1 needles are not fully standardised among manufacturers, and some of these needles work with Jones, while other don’t (must use Schmetz, see above).Except that Jones machines have a positioning pin in their bobbin winder, so you need Singer 27/28 bobbins with a little hole in the cap like those used with German-made VS machines.These bobbins are being made again, both with and without the hole, so make sure you get the right type. The oldest Spool I’ve seen was from 1899, and it already used the larger bobbin called “Medium”.See my post on vibrating shuttle machines for more details.Later variants of Jones CS include models called “Consort” , “No. These models take different needles from Family CS, but are otherwise the same. You can tell old style Family CS from the new style CS by the type of the needle clamp.What we aim to do on this page is to give you some pictures of, and information about the types of rare and desirable vintage and antique sewing machines that we are seeking.
These needles have slightly different measurements, which doesn’t seem much but the wrong needle may cause skipped stitches. I had questions from people who tried to use Organ DBx1 – why does it not work? However, I could not find any modern needles without a scarf.
DBx1 needles are not really a very good match: the shank is too thin (1.58mm instead of 1.74mm) so that the needle is pushed too far away from the hook or shuttle, and the length from the butt to the eye is too short (33.7mm instead of 34mm) so that the eye comes too high as well. However, Schmetz DBx1 needles are slightly thicker in the shank (1.63mm) and slightly longer from butt to eye (33.9mm) so that it just about works. This latter name is a misnomer because they do not have a sharp point – regular needles have a sharp point.
But they feel sharp to the touch because the end of the needle is slim.
New CS has a Singer style needle clamp and takes standard domestic 15×1 needles. Jones Spool is a rotary machine after Wheeler & Wilson D9, full size only.
Old CS does not have a separate needle clamp – the needle is inserted directly into the needle bar. If you want to know more about Jones machines, there is a nice page at Sewalot.